Donington Experience and the BRSCC

[Shakeyfinch]

[quote="samier"]The engine as fitted to the Juniors is an X16XE engine ( a popular engine in corsas and tigras, possibly astras too. It uses jenvey throttle bodies thats how they ran in the championship from 1998-1999.

Why should minimum weight be an issue? They are already at a disadvantage racing with the 2.0 winged cars.

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It's an issue because they are the rules and to run in the 2000 class you need to run conforming to the correct weight limit.

I suppose the principle overrides the argument on whether it is important or not (in terms of advantage/disadvantage) and rightly so, becuase if you don't enforce the rules there aint much point in having them..and then we may as well go off an do Formula Libre!

MH

[broadside]

My cars overweight and I'm a cr*p driver, can I have a turbo to reduce my disadvantage

[RedRedWine]

Sorry, I'm not an expert on the 16v engine but if it didn't run in the road car from which it's taken with the throttle bodies used on the 16v race car then I don't think it's eligible for the 2 litre class. If it did, then it should be. (usual disclaimers, I'm not a tech rep)

Ironically, I think my 1600 FVJ car would be, because the injection is standard Nova GTE.

And finally, whilst Broadside's far too young to be affected, I suggest everybody over 50 (except Dave Parkinson) should be allowed a turbo (and nitrous oxide injection) in all classes.

[samier]

Sorry, I'm not an expert on the 16v engine but if it didn't run in the road car from which it's taken with the throttle bodies used on the 16v race car then I don't think it's eligible for the 2 litre class. If it did, then it should be. (usual disclaimers, I'm not a tech rep)

Ironically, I think my 1600 FVJ car would be, because the injection is standard Nova GTE.

And finally, whilst Broadside's far too young to be affected, I suggest everybody over 50 (except Dave Parkinson) should be allowed a turbo (and nitrous oxide injection) in all classes.

Tony, if you put a turbo on or NOS no one would see you for dust!!

[tristancliffe]

Sssh! Do not massage the ego of the Tony! Otherwise he'll end up doing Rossi-esque victory celebrations. Nipping into port-a-loos on the slowing down lap, dressing up as Robin Hood for the podium, and... I dare not go on!

[samier]

Mallory Park last month was not the first time the FVJ 1600 16v have run with the 2.0 cars, They did so atthe final 2 rounds at Snetterton last year and poss before that too...

If the minimum weight is an issue, why was that not mentioned when we joined the 2.0 cars? At present the regs say the cars must be 535kgs for the FVJ 1600 16v.

[tristancliffe]

If you wish to enter your car in the 2000 class then you have to abide by the 2000 regulations - engine 'homologation'', minimum weight etc

If the 1600 class shares a grid with the 2000s you have to abide by the 1600 regulations

Assuming the 1600s are with the 1800s and 1000s then a second entry on the 2000 grid would not be as a 1600 class car, but as a 2000 car (to those regs) and with a smaller engine.

Does that make it any clearer? When Pete Bragg (and co) enter their 1800cc cars in 2000 then they are complying with the regulations of the 2000 class.

If you are after 'cheap' track time then a days holiday and a test day would be better. But I personally see the appeal of spending money on more race days than test days, if the money only stretches to one or the other. I only test once per year, because any more tests would mean I'd have to skip races instead. And races are way more fun!!

[phuston]

Having scored useful points with his 1800 racing in the 2000 class, Peter has now has a 'proper 2000'. Its first outing was to be at Donington...............

[samier]

If you wish to enter your car in the 2000 class then you have to abide by the 2000 regulations - engine 'homologation'', minimum weight etc

If the 1600 class shares a grid with the 2000s you have to abide by the 1600 regulations

Assuming the 1600s are with the 1800s and 1000s then a second entry on the 2000 grid would not be as a 1600 class car, but as a 2000 car (to those regs) and with a smaller engine.

Does that make it any clearer? When Pete Bragg (and co) enter their 1800cc cars in 2000 then they are complying with the regulations of the 2000 class.

If you are after 'cheap' track time then a days holiday and a test day would be better. But I personally see the appeal of spending money on more race days than test days, if the money only stretches to one or the other. I only test once per year, because any more tests would mean I'd have to skip races instead. And races are way more fun!!

Thats all I wanted to clear up, if the 1800's are forced to race in 2000 then they follow 1800 rules, if they want to race in 2000 by choice they follow the 2000 rules, but in anycase a FVJ 16v would not be allowed due to injection system used?

[tristancliffe]

You hit the proverbial nail on its head...

Bet you wish you'd bought an 1800 now :p

[samier]

You hit the proverbial nail on its head...

Bet you wish you'd bought an 1800 now :p

Well not really, I am happy with the 1600 FVJ.. Once day, I will get my self something better!!

[Pigpen]

I thought it was a great weekend. Mind you, I spent it stripping my engine drinking beer and watching the grand prix.

[lee]

I thought it was a great weekend. Mind you, I spent it stripping my engine drinking beer and watching the grand prix.

Hopefully in that order!

[stevengriffin]

My friends who race Alfas (they were also cancelled at Donny) say they have been allocated another BRSCC event at Donnington on Aug 1st.
No sign of a refund and no allowance for the fact that many will be away on holidays at that ttime of year and therefore unable to take up the 'offer'.

[tristancliffe]

Plus we are at Silverstone on the 1st August.

Would be nice if the BRSCC kept in touch with those people that gave them money. I appreciate there might be 'happenings' behind the scenes, within the MRC committee, but an official word from the BRSCC would be a good move.

But then when have the BRSCC cared about non-BRSCC competitors in recent times?

(and I'm still not blaming them for the cancellation or anything. Just for seemingly ignoring us since then).