AndyY wrote:schomosport wrote:F750 caters for a significantly different type of car to Mono. The (complex and detailed) regulations are readily available from their website.
Some key differentiators:
Limited engine choice - mostly 1800cc or elderly 2000cc 8 valvers
4 speeds, no LSDs
significantly different minimum weights 505-520kg for most cars, 455kg for bike engined cars
Grids mostly full of recent Van Diemens and Mygales at present if that floats your boat.
Me, I think the two series are complementary rather than rivals, depends on what you want to drive.
I am afraid I don't agree. I would expect that most people thinking of trying club level single seaters will probably look around and make a choice between FF1600, F Jedi, Mono and F4. They'll decide what money they have to spend on a car and spend on something that meets their perception of "value for money". A strange concept in motorsport, I know. Some will plum for FF1600 because they like ancient technology, some will plum for F Jedi (or maybe Mono 1200) because they like the bike engined thing but for many they'll make a straight choice between Mono (maybe Mono Classic) and F4 and in the early stages I bet they won't care about 4/5 speed boxes or LSDs etc, they'll just want to know which has the better image (and the fact that F4 is called F4 is a significant aid to understanding what its all about), which has the best track time and which has the cheaper entry fees. Mono compares very well in most of these respects but 750mc have a higher profile and F4 is doing its bit to be part of that. Some people considering club single seaters may not even know that Mono exists. God, even the so called club editor of Autosport a few weeks ago was waxing lyrical about the benefits of the new bike engined Revelation series for entry level single seater motorsport and Mono wasn't even mentioned as an alternative.
Complacency may lead to problems in the future. I will be delighted if I am wrong.
Like it or not, F4 has spotted that the F Renault contingent in BARC FRenault are homeless in 2009 and have invited them in with a class of their own (and I understand that gear ratios will be free). Even if only 2 or 3 people make that move, it is 2 or 3 people added to their grid and 2 or 3 people not on Monos.
Andyy has got it about right there. i'm looking at racing single seaters next year (after 5 years of saloons). being in the north i've only 2 choices, f4 or mono. being a northerner also means i dont like to travel too far from home, so in an ideal world i'd like to buy a car that would be eligible for both championships, so i can pick and choose which rounds to do.
I'd quite like a Jedi, they look nice, are devilishly fast,but i
really dont like the idea of my feet being so far forward of the front wheels... i know they are safe etc.. but at a little over 6 foot i suspect they'de be a tad small anyway...
i'd really like a fvl, but worry about ageing mechanicals and also eligibility for f4...
i definatley dont want a ff1600 (sorry they just dont 'do it' for me ...
a later us spec ff would be good, but i suspect i'd be getting out of my depth conversion and setup wise.
so what else would do me? a renault maybe?
like the man said, number of gears, lsd etc... isnt really that important. value for money, profile, etc is what counts. f4 dont even have a forum do they?
sorry if i went on a bit.
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